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Volvo-Berti skrev:
thanks for the hint for he download possibility! i'll test it as soon as possible and try to convert it to Navigon MN6


You are welcome!

i've tested to convert the data to MN6, but it doesn't work. converting to MN4 the file is empty, converting to TT asc-file, the geodata are corect, but there are some data missing like post code and city/town.

it seems that there is acutally no method to use your data in new map based Navigon systems. :(

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Hi Berti,

I saw that GPSBabel (online http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/ or freeware download http://www.gpsbabel.org/) has partial support for MN4, have you tried that? I also saw that routeconverter has some MN6 support http://www.routeconverter.de/

In theory I can make an interface to any format it is just that it takes sme time to make new file formats and I prefer just to use one universal format (GPX) But if you are very certain that there is no conversion tool from GPX to Navicon and can give me a sample import file I can see what I can do, but I do not promise anything though!

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hej Aryan,

i have tried GPS Babel, but it doesen't work with MN 6.

the routeconverter only works with routes, not with POI, as far as i understood the describtion.

so the "easiest" way to convert is to download your data, convert them to *.asc for TomTom, then open this file with an editor and do the necessary corrections to become an asc-file for NAvigon :?

the format of the entries in Navigon asc must be like this:

3.3036000,49.8401000,"[02100] Centre E.Leclerc de Saint Quentin; 50 route Guise [Harly (Saint Quentin)]"

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Mmm that is a pity, none of the other tools help either?

Volvo-Berti skrev:
the format of the entries in Navigon asc must be like this:

3.3036000,49.8401000,"[02100] Centre E.Leclerc de Saint Quentin; 50 route Guise [Harly (Saint Quentin)]"


Ok thanks, can you explain a little more:
what kind of data, how many charaters etc is allowed in the dffrent fields
lat,lon,"[postnr]adress[city (extra info)]"

lat: (#)#.########
lon: (#)#.########
postnr only digits or alpha numeric?
adress new lines with a semikolom ";" how do I escape a semicolomin an adress \; or?
how are higher ascci characters like åäöçéèôøãõ etc coded?
how many characters max?

Greetings, Aryan


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Mmm that is a pity, none of the other tools help either?

Volvo-Berti skrev:
the format of the entries in Navigon asc must be like this:

3.3036000,49.8401000,"[02100] Centre E.Leclerc de Saint Quentin; 50 route Guise [Harly (Saint Quentin)]"


Ok thanks, can you explain a little more:
what kind of data, how many charaters etc is allowed in the dffrent fields
lat,lon,"[postnr]adress[city (extra info)]"

lat: (#)#.########
lon: (#)#.########
postnr only digits or alpha numeric?
adress new lines with a semikolom ";" how do I escape a semicolomin an adress \; or?
how are higher ascci characters like åäöçéèôøãõ etc coded?
how many characters max?

Greetings, Aryan

ok, a lot of questions, which i try to answer to, but first another example of a POI, which may a give an answer to some of your questions.

6.7225400,51.2460500,"[40547] OIL-Tankstelle; Löricker Straße 41 [Düsseldorf]"

you see, here are higher characters in, and this POI run without problems.

how many characters:
lat/lon: must be in that way you wrote above, 7 characters behind the .

if alphanumeric postnr are allowed, i don't know, but i think that must be so, because this navigation systems are sold in GB, too.

how to eleminate an ; in an address field? what do you mean exactly?

i even do not know if there is a limitation to the numbers of characters in a POI data, but i can add some more information like phone numbers, opening times etc, always separated by a ;

i think the main limitation is by the SD card and the memory of the navigation system....the more data, the more lost of speed and stability.

btw:
i am not at home from tomorrow until thursday morning, so an answer will take a little bit time

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update:

i have tested the POI format in my Navigon/POI-Warner-combination by recording 2 POI manually (per address input, then copy to POI list).

the minimal data are

lat: (#)#.########
lon: (#)#.########
[post code]
(city]

in the known order lat,lon,"[post code] [city]"

i will ask in a pocket navigation forum if there are problems known by using a lot of data in the POI format, but as far as i know there is no real need to limit the information for each POI, not as i wrote in my last posting :)

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Berti
http://www.ethanol-tanken.com
http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/detailansicht[url]/349366.html[/url]


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I also saw that routeconverter has some MN6 support http://www.routeconverter.de/


Hi Aryan,

if you're interested I could extend RouteConverter to read and write MN6 POI lists. I've developed MN6 route support with an dedicated user and that worked fine. Anyone interested?

Kind regards
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I also saw that routeconverter has some MN6 support http://www.routeconverter.de/


Hi Aryan,

if you're interested I could extend RouteConverter to read and write MN6 POI lists. I've developed MN6 route support with an dedicated user and that worked fine. Anyone interested?

Kind regards
Christian


Hi Christian,

Fantastic that you found us here :-)

I think it would be wonderfull if RouteConverter could convert GPX poi lists to MN6 POI lists. I do't have use for it myself but I think Volvo-Berti and others could be very happy.

I can provide you a test GPX file from our bioethaol tankstations database if you like.

Kind regards,
Aryan

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I could extend RouteConverter to read and write MN6 POI lists


Fantastic that you found us here :-)


thanks to Google Analytics... :wink:

aryan skrev:
I think it would be wonderfull if RouteConverter could convert GPX poi lists to MN6 POI lists. I do't have use for it myself but I think Volvo-Berti and others could be very happy.

I can provide you a test GPX file from our bioethaol tankstations database if you like.


Hi Aryan,

that GPX file would be nice since POI lists a currently not very well supported by the map view: It doesn't make sense to connect them with lines as with routes or tracks.

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Great, you've got mail!

/Aryan

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wow, that sounds really great!! :D :D

i am very anxious to read your results here...or is it now possible to download the routeconverter with these features?

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wow, that sounds really great!! :D :D

i am very anxious to read your results here...or is it now possible to download the routeconverter with these features?


I'm not that fast :-)

There are some descriptions of the MN6 POI format here in the forum. However I'd like to have an example of a POI file that was produced by MN6. Could you send that to me?

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update:

i have tested the POI format in my Navigon/POI-Warner-combination by recording 2 POI manually (per address input, then copy to POI list).

the minimal data are

lat: (#)#.########
lon: (#)#.########
[post code]
(city]

in the known order lat,lon,"[post code] [city]"

i will ask in a pocket navigation forum if there are problems known by using a lot of data in the POI format, but as far as i know there is no real need to limit the information for each POI, not as i wrote in my last posting :)

Christian, you will see here my experience with my Navigon. :)

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Berti
http://www.ethanol-tanken.com
http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/detailansicht[url]/349366.html[/url]


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Christian, you will see here my experience with my Navigon. :)


Hi Volvo-Berti,

that doesn't mattern. You have a copy of MN6, right? So if I produce such POI lists with RouteConverter you could test, if your Navigon recognizes them?

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hi Christian,

yes, i have a safety copy of my MN6, who not? ;)

sure can i test a POI list, and will inform you about the results :)

you can contact me using German language via mail

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